The Eternal Sanctum (Holy Knight Headquarters)

Martha and Yuuya were having a very interesting conversation. He could apparently take comfort in not being the newest person on a quest like this, but he also found it odd to be included. Martha supposed all of that made sense, but there was a fairly reasonable explanation for that sort of thing. "New to the world specifically sure, but people from the side of the world that we are from have a decent understanding of things like magical world combat, due to media and fantasy on our side. Having someone like that even if they are mostly new is always an interesting thing," she explained. "Besides, when building a party for a specific task you need solid people, not just flashy ones, but ones who are good at what they do... it doesn't matter much when they appeared if that is what you're going for... I am sure you'll understand as you get to know Charlie," she gave that bit. "Also you're not alone in thinking some things quite weird, I still do... I was a school teacher on the other side and adjusting to life while remembering that one can be quite strange," she offered the lad that information so he wouldn't feel so out of place within this group. She doubted many were living very exciting lives if they came from the other side, so their need for cooperation was still something rather ingrained in their method of thinking, it was after all a very human trait.

At the same time, Sakura was found leaning over Charles and greeting him for the morning. He seemed to be quite stricken and she wasn't entirely sure why. Even though his own thoughts may have made him believe othewise, she truly didn't have any ulterior motives when joining him aside from watching him wake. How strange he seemed he was very much awake in some senses of the word. Just the same she settled against him and smiled just a bit. "You seem to be awake now... did you want to do something with this..." she questioned adding a little grinding motion to make her point. "Or open the door?" she asked knowing that Astolfo was outside of it but not really caring one way or another.

At the same time, a lesson was being given in an odd way. Anais and Yume were informed of the associations with Mana Transfers early in the morning. Yume was told of her choice and the theoretical idea that even if one had a problem after the start of the experience that one would be likeliest to change their mind given mana related urges. "That makes sense, I never actually want to stop her once she starts up... and I always find a bit of contact rather endearing~" mentioned Yume. Oh, yes her words were still way flirtier than they needed to be but that wasn't actually a problem given the current situation. Ah, but there was still the matter of Anais's personal reasons for her particular activity. But even after Anais confessed to simply wishing to fondle her friend she found no reprimand. In fact, Ailen was moving his own form hovering over the two of them making Anais's heart beat rather rapidly in her chest. "Oh? That's really nice... we both really like that don't we~" Yume found herself teasing even while squirming just a bit. Anais found herself doing the same, she wasn't often on the receiving end of being groped, in fact, she couldn't actually remember being groped this way at all. But that was right, she was still hearing this lesson even as she was red-faced and embarrassed and it did make sense that she would enjoy such contact based solely on this being her friend and being the type that aimed to receive mana. Though... "I am pretty sure this sort of thing is well beyond the normal human understanding of friendship... even so I was prone to this sort of activity to start with so I suppose it could be confirmed if mana had such an effect from one world to another..." she murmured softly also seeming to think about it. "Well, according to Mugen-sama low level magic can appear on our world. He thought my mom was a person capable of divining the weather and the like. If something like that happens, a developed boob obsession for you isn't too far-fetched..." she said. "Especially when you consider what the rest of us look like by comparison~" she chimed knowing that smaller people recieved and Miko had been the smallest and always the molester of their group of friends.

Martha declared that Yuuya had something to offer, simply by being from the other world. He supposed it was an easier transition than one could have expected the other way around, and he did enter this world with something of a guide sheet. He could at least keep the group safe through the night, even if they did encounter something none of them could defeat. "H-hai. I'll do whatever I can to help. Also, I didn't know you were a teacher. That must have been very strange when you found a way over," he mused just to keep up the idle chatter. Truthfully, Yuuya wasn't even aware of how others entered this world. His case was a very peculiar one, discrediting any video game-related disappearances known in the world they came from.

While Charlemagne struggled within his own mind, Sakura decided matters needed to be a bit worse still. That erection she'd been moving against was brought into question with another obviously conscious movement. Charlemagne could do naught but gasp at the sensation. Did he wish to do something about that, or open the door? That had to be some sort of trap from the universe. As always, he felt there was a way he should answer. Would that be what passed his lips, though? Of course not; it never was in these cases. Besides, honest as his body was at the time, he couldn't even dream of lying to the person who could feel his true response against herself. "That's not fair. Every time I even think about saying no, it feels stupid... like it's the wrong idea. Do you even expect me to say no while you're rubbing against it?"

In the meantime, Ailen was experiencing a very different conundrum. Well... that wasn't right; there was no issue at all. There was, however, something both Anais and Yume were expected to be doing at this hour. Alas, that had nothing to do with him. This group and their journey was in no danger for a bit of divergence, and these two would be better for a bit more knowledge, as always. According to Yume, both parties were pleased by Ailen's approach. That was consistent with his earlier assumptions, though for Anais, that much was obvious before. It seemed even Mugen had something to contribute to the hypothesis. If he entertained the idea that Yume's mother had magical capacity, it was likely true. "There must be some merit to it. Tohsaka-san is usually correct in his assumptions, even if the rest of us never realize why," said the elf. It seemed his groping would not halt even for an unrelated discussion. Soon enough, Ailen was concluding his example by squeezing each girl's nipple twixt his forefingers and thumbs. By doing so after all that stimulation he expected both of them to expel mana. "Even with your slightly different types, I would expect both of you to be at similar production levels from this. Though I do wonder exactly what the difference should be. . ."

Yes, Martha had been a teacher, specifically she taught high school history, but that was neither here nor there. No, it was much more important that Yuuya would help others and that he had a very interesting thing to say about the method of transfer. She looked at him oddly, "Huh, I guess you haven't talked to a lot of people yet. I'm sure you'll find many people have different ways of ending up over here, but a lot come from various ties to Industrial Illusions," she commented. She had more to say though specifically about her own circumstances, "Yes, I taught high school history in Japan, but going from that to a baby and child in a magical world was an adjustment," she explained of her own situation. "Still it's good that you'll help. I won't say you have to... you can still decide that for yourself," she said knowing that the lad could make his own decisions. But in her opinion he seemed like he could use a bit of socialization and Charles was good for that sort of thing.

While two people engaged in small talk, Charles and Sakura were going through an interesting wake up routine. The lad and his throbbing manhood were being rubbed against ever so gently by Sakura, but she'd done this strictly as it felt like the most appropriate physical reaction. In truth Charles seemed almost distressed and his words implied a certain amount of discomfort. "I don't know why it isn't fair," she expressed as a true moment of confusion. "And you could say no, taking into account what you've said and done in the past two days and in taking care of your emotional stability, I consider it a high possibility... even if I do not understand all of the nuances," she explained of the moment. There was also the person outside the door to take into account and he seemed to have a much more urgent response time to things than she was used to in her personal life, as such she was giving him quite the ability to back out of their current interaction. She remained against him because it was a rather comfortable place and she was raised to bask in things that gave her comfort.

At the same time, Ailen apparently believed in the potential for Mugen's right assessment of a situations variables even while he didn't have any reason to know of it. That would mean that somewhere in the subconscious of Anais, was a desire to possess mana which lead her to surrounding herself with large breasted young women. That was a lot of unpack of her own mentality but she supposed it wasn't a bad thing so she wouldn't feel bad about it. "I suppose it makes sense, and Mugen-sensei does seem to know a lot about way too many things..." she said thoughtfully. Ah, but there was quite the tingling sensation in her chest, and she felt as mana was released from the tip of her nipple as it was twisted. Yume also felt a strange amount of building sensation as she would experience a similar sensation at the same time. Both released just a bit of a spray not too intense, but both also felt it in their loins. "Aah!~" both girls managed only to leave Anais red faced while giving thoughts to that sensation. "You know, as a teen girl I feel like I should really be more worried about that happening and feeling nice, but I really can't be bothered," Yume mentioned. "Yeah, I had the same thought the day before yesterday..." mentioned Anais. "Oh, did Mi-chan have a busy first day as an apprentice too?~" asked Yume seemingly more flirty than she was before.

Indeed, Yuuya was still lacking a great deal of information regarding this world. Most transfers apparently related to Industrial Illusions, a massive media company within their original world. "Sou ka. For a while, I figured everyone had a similar method to mine. Were people actually teleported here?" he wondered. "Actually, I'm very ignorant about everything. Even since coming here, I only really know this place and the forest," he continued. If drafted for this upcoming journey, he could at least learn quite a few things about the world and its functions. For instance, Martha spoke of becoming a baby in this world. To Yuuya, that didn't make any sense at all. "I'm willing to join, if everyone will have me. There's so much I don't understand yet. I think it would really help me be useful to more people if I go along."

Simple human reasoning was not something Sakura understood; that much had been clear all along. Charlemagne may have assumed, however, that the difference in existential quality between them was obvious. He may have become divine recently, but nothing had been done to his mind. Mentally, he was just a human male being propositioned by a goddess. In no way was that something very friendly to free will. "So... in case you need to know, that whole transformation didn't change my brain or anything. Since when is it normal for a human to turn down a goddess? It literally feels wrong, even when I do it. Saying no feels like deciding to drink orange juice after brushing your teeth; you know it's going to end badly!"

Meanwhile, Ailen succeeded in another minor study. Both Anais and Yume expelled mana from their breasts, neither seeming very different compared to the other. In terms of quality comparison, a test was required. While both girls were commenting on the experiences so new to them, Ailen was lapping at the teat of Anais, then Yume. A few moments bridged the two, that he might truly sample each offering before starting another mumbled tirade. "Hmm. How strange. It seems Tohsaka-san was incredibly thorough after all. Even I didn't expect such density... complexity, even. It is worth giving a great deal of credit that I, who adjusted to this sort of arrangement early in life, have managed to acclimate my apprentice by a lesser amount over a longer period of time. Though perhaps that is a matter of being newer to this world, and having less outside influences before the first exchange with Tohsaka-san? There are quite a few variables. It does seem my apprentice is still developing at an alarming rate. There is also that additional core in the works, which compares to the ancient being in terms of being a secondary routing path similar to the existing connection between Myouou and apprentice. The other three may show similar signs if this pattern holds. One might only wonder how long it will be until we encounter the third. . ."

The method Yuuya used to get to this world was actually quite rare. That being said, he didn't seem to understand the lives of most of the people who'd ended up here. Martha could easily clarify this, and that would likely help his understanding. "Actually, I think most people were teleported here, any who retain their memories seem to have been pulled over, so many are making the best of a very strange situation," she explained. Some people wouldn't have imagined being here. There were more than a few people who tried at life here like it was a video game completely only to discover that their actions had lasting consequences and effects and that they didn't get to simply do over something they messed up. Such was life. "I also think it's good for everyone to get out of the places that they know and see some different things. This world is huge and there are all kinds of interesting things to see... I am actually pretty excited about this particular adventure," she mused. It'd been quite a while since she'd managed to leave this place with a goal in mind that wasn't specfic to her saintly qualities. "I think you'll find you're quite useful even before then, but I think it will definitely be good for you to get to know some more people," she advised. Still a bit of a teacher she thought it would be good for the lad's social development among other things.

At the same time, Sakura was learning how Charles still saw himself and the reason he didn't see himself saying no to the girl as she sat atop him seeming to study his face quite a bit as he expressed himself. His mind was according to his own words very much still human and he felt wrong trying to turn down a goddess who was propositioning him. Interesting. She didn't see her actions as propositioning him, that would have required more intent on her part. "Sou ka, well you can make the decision, though my parents encourage me to do what feels right as a matter of balancing my spiritual, physical and mental needs. After waking is one of the best times to engage, you can metabolize better and give better..." she explained of her own understanding of physiology versus psychology. "It isn't normal for a human to turn down a goddess, but it is a matter of personal will as I understand it. Humans are very prone as I see them to ignoring their instincts and desires for emotional reasons. Though I find that confusing as emotional stability would come with the actions denied," she explained of her current understanding. "I also don't understand toothbrushing... I've seen it done, and I assume it is hygiene related, but human hygiene is odd to me," the girl murmured. Still her hips weren't removed, he'd not actually made a decision at all, so she didn't know if she should be putting space between them or getting closer, thus she maintained.

Ailen was first thing in the morning, answering his curiosities with the two girls who'd shared a bed with him in the night prior. Both expelled mana and he went on to taste of both of them. Yume for her part in this found unusual arousal in the moment and Anais did the same though given her past few days it felt fairly normal. In fact, the elafia girl was intently listening to her mentor ramble seemingly transfixed by his words, both sets of her ears gently wiggling. "Oh? I'm complex? Interesting... Mugen-sama is also probably distantly related to me, if that information clarifies things for you, Ai-aniki," she added for the sake of expanding the information he had. "Also, this is like romance novel steamy doctor visit yeah? You're really into this~" mentioned Yume in a teasing manner. "We're really into this, you're still squirming,~" mentioned Anais. "Yeah, well your ears are wiggling~" teased Yume. "I know, I can't help it... it's just so easy to concentrate on... you don't even know..." Anais mentioned, she'd nearly died when Solomon was speaking, Ailen's voice was smooth and homey to her, she could literally listen to his ramblings all day. The elf known as Ailen had sampled of both students and both of them had their own senses on themselves and each other and as such seemed to be thinking about a great number of things. A third student was also being hypothesized, while noting alarming developments. "Additional cores? Can you play multiple characters?" wondered Yume, in terms which were familiar to Anais. "Hai, you can... actually if you came over here as yourself you might already have one," mentioned Anais who began to wonder if this world worked the way that most things did and Yume's base self was saved after her evolution.

For the foreseeable future, Yuuya would be learning about others' experiences reaching this new world. He didn't know how long it would be until the others appeared. Perhaps something would slow them down... or even speed them up. For example, Charlemagne and Sakura were once again at an impasse of understanding. Apparently, the best time for debauchery was just after waking up. Of course it was. What other ridiculous things would he hear moving forward? Time would tell. Whatever the case, Sakura could claim this was a matter of personal will all she wanted; that didn't mean his decision would suddenly feel right. "No, that doesn't work. The way it feels, it's like... oh! Imagine you've got the inspiration to create something. I imagine the feeling is the same as if you decided not to make anything at all. Does that make sense as a comparison?" he wondered. Still, Charlemagne had given neither firm positive nor firm negative response. Frankly, his true answer would be something between, based on his ever-conflicting desires. As for the matter of toothbrushing, he figured it was something foreign to Sakura. Since ascending, Charlemagne hadn't observed a need for such things either. "It is a hygiene thing. In my world, if you don't brush your teeth, your breath stinks. It was a bacterial thing then, so probably something about mana waste in this reality. You brush with a paste that smells nice, but the taste clashes with a lot of stuff you might have for breakfast."

Meanwhile, Yume was expressing the idea of being somehow related to Mugen. Strange though that was, Ailen couldn't be too surprised by the idea of Mugen being connected to the other world. He was, after all, a current product of the Void. "That does simplify things a bit, yes. Of course, all things can only be so simple when he is involved," he asserted. Something about this arrangement was compared to a certain novel genre, which they both seemed to take interest in. Though Ailen was ignorant to the details of this exchange, he did have something to say about it. "Steamy doctor visit? That sounds strange, but if it is acceptable, I suppose that's alright. And, yes, it is likely you both have multiple cores currently... even if the others are not yet active," the elf explained further. Now that the topic had shifted a bit, Ailen recalled what he'd been mulling over after waking. There was little chance to bring it up before, but now was as good a time as any. "So... what exactly is this 'butter' thing?"

As the pair outside continued to chat about the world and how one entered it, Sakura and Charles discussed matters of will and action. Charles even took to making one of his numerous examples to try and have the girl understand his stance on the workings of his body versus those of his mind. He compared how he felt now, to... having the inspiration to create, and then simply not doing it but retaining the feeling. Sakura gave herself a bit of time to process that as an example and she knew what it felt like to be inspired and she understood what it was like to choose not to make something, combining those two things was odd. "Hm, that sounds terrible. It is a working example I understand it..." she murmured but she was still rather inquisitively studying the lad. "But it sounds like self-torture," she explained. His words to her sounded like he was causing himself mental pain by not going along with what he spiritually or physically wanted for no discernable reason. He would cost him less time to seek relief in this case than it would for him to argue with himself about it and that made it more confusing to her as he seemed to be moving with a sense of urgency. Beyond this point, the lad did explain tooth brushing which was a matter of bacteria where he was from but he assumed was something mana related here... "It is probably more like a stagnation of mana which should be in constant flow. Food has its own mana so it going in and pure mana going in should be causing it to flow. It not flowing could potentially pose problems... even if humans don't understand it this way," she said though she was the short of being how didn't have those kinds of problems because her mana was perfectly regulated.

Mugen was a complicated existence with a complicated apprentice. The knowledge that Yume was somehow related to Mugen in a roundabout way did clear things up but also didn't, she expected this... "I could see that... Mugen-sama is quite complex~" she mused. Ah, but all of that paled in comparison to this man's random hearing of the girl's combined conversation. What was a steamy doctor visit? Well... Yume had that one covered too, much to Anais's dismay. "Oh? That is like a common trope in smutty novels. A set up for a hot older guy to end up with some young inexperienced girl. He asks a bunch of innocuous questions under the pretense of curiosity and it becomes a whole romantic entanglement~" she expressed of the general plots. "Though in your case, the curiosity is really honest so it's probably better~" Yume finished up. "Hai, definitely better..." Anais confirmed. "And I have at least three counting my active one by my own count, she probably has at least two... weird but not something to stress about when we have cool reveals to do later," Anais confirmed. Oh... but Ailen had a question, what was butter? Yume who'd been amused and beyond entertained by the general conversation managed to look a bit shocked. Anais seemed to be in stunned thought and nervous laughter would come... "Hehehe~ Butter? Really? Have you been thinking about that since tea time?" she asked looking directly at Anais and making the girl squirm with the intensity of her gaze. "You know... people don't really eat normal foods here so I am not really that surprised... I've actually not had it in anything or seen it myself since being here..." she confirmed only to begin the actual explanation. "It's a milk product, from like regular bovine creatures. Basically it is milk fat, separated from the liquid and kneaded into a semi-solid at room temperature, fairly low melting point. It can be spread on bread, eaten in rice... used as a fat for cooking meats... it's really good for flavors," she explained of butter.

Once more, Charlemagne managed an analogy Sakura could understand. This time, however, she addressed the truth of it all in a form that was difficult to take head-on. Self-torture, she called that behavior. She wasn't wrong. It was torturous, and for a time, it was only the lesser of two evils. One evil had been all but removed as of the previous day, however. What was even holding him back now? Well... nothing, really. "Yeah, it sort of is. That's partly the point," he murmured. Naturally, his body had yet to stop giving its answer. Charlemagne himself was hardly even distracted enough by the talk of dental hygiene. "You know, five minutes ago, I thought you were about to just do something without asking. It was weird to see you not do that," he said after a few moments of silence, as if that somehow would have been the better alternative. Actually, that outcome would have made dealing with it all far easier.

While the discussion continued, Astolfo managed to begin opening Charlemagne's bedroom door ever so slowly. It had been some time since he heard any important noises, so he thought to sneak his way in and perhaps witness the afterglow. Luckily for him, the position of Sakura's body would keep Charlemagne from seeing... but he could see. Sakura was clothed, and it seemed Charlemagne at least had on trousers. Could they simply not wait? That was an interesting thought to have. Whatever the case, Astolfo crept his way deeper into the room, where he'd wait to see if there was actually anything sexual happening here or not.

All the while, Ailen's curiosities were being answered one after another. These two knew of a trope involving attractive, older men, and inexperienced girls. It sounded absolutely scandalous the way Yume put it, but it also sounded rather accurate to his situation with Anais. Alas, there was no pretense between them, bar a few flirty exchanges. Was that something worth exploring with greater purpose? He'd taken a moment to remove himself from both girls, rising up and holding a hand under his chin. "I see. In that case, should I assume enforcing the trope is something you desire as an act of play? I suppose that wouldn't be very farfetched, if so. I believe my mentor once exemplified such an attitude," the elf mused. Moving on, there was also an explanation given about butter. The thing in question was a product of milk, which made it an incredibly useful thing this world should always have. Upon hearing about it, Ailen could only be surprised that it wasn't a massive deal in this world. "Really?! That sounds incredible! We must have this produced; it would do so much for so many! Even as I consider it now, there is an entire archipelago connected to Munetsuchi which could desperately use the mana something like this 'butter' could provide! It could change the world as we know it."

Sakura's understanding of this mental and physical battle of Charles was according to the lad himself, accurate. He was torturing himself and it was apparently the point. How strange, she'd seen people submit themselves to the will of others rather easily, but never had she imagined a person would torture themselves simply by not making a decision. "Torture like that does not make sense to me, and does not seem like it is good for you. But I am not judging," she mentioned heartily. Still she was placed atop him and her senses were rather open so she was more than a little aware that someone else was in the room with them even if she'd not turned around to deal with the person in question. It was tangibly more important for her to understand Charles's moods so their conversation would continue. He claimed, that he'd expected her to do something without asking, that it was weird of her to wait... "I could have," she mentioned of just doing something. "But I did not ask ahead of time how you wished to wake and you seem to have established boundaries," she explained of their situation as she saw it. His hang-ups were obvious to her, even if she didn't fully understand them. She'd been quite frank and straightforward, but she was still mostly just trying to look out for him. "I would not want to commit to anything that would cause you more mental or emotional anguish... so I was willing to leave such decisions to you... If you'd prefer I make them, I can do that as well, though if there are lines you do not wish to have crossed you should state them," she explained. "It is also the case that you do not seem to wish an audience for such things, even if you would be alright with any actions I took..." she said carefully. "Honestly it is quite the challenging path but I won't fail to navigate it, once I understand all the variables," she told the lad. She gave him a reassuring rub to the top of his head leaning over him and shifting her body just a bit. She offered him nothing but acceptance, but he seemed to have a rather complex way of understanding their relationship, it demanded the development of skills which she didn't already have. It was interesting.

Meanwhile Anais was also being given a very thorough look at her own psyche through the books she once partook of, interestingly enough there was an open offer of such a thing being exemplified through their interactions as a form of play. Would she like that? 'Hell yes we'd like that! Do it! FUCKING DO IT!~' her internal voice practically screamed at her. In being something she was so obviously interested in, Yume could almost hear those communications clearly. "Hoh? That's surprisingly honest, given your body language. Still more excited inside than outside~" she mentioned. Anais was currently tapping her fingers together and red in the face but looking rather skittish. "I'm pretty sure I'd be interested in that Shishou," she murmured. And that was all she'd say about it, she was going to die of embarrassment one day, of this she was certain. "Are? That's such a cute reaction!" Yume mentioned only to be caught by the bits about butter. Anais had a good understanding of it, and anyone from their world would, butter was a staple. But according to Ailen, it would do wonders for a certain Archipelago. He claimed it would revolutionize the world. "Butter is delicious and given how mana works I even understand your excitement," she stated as he sat up. She finally did the same and so did Anais. "It isn't really that hard to make, though it'd need to be made by milk producing animals with high body fat content to be effective. We did it once as a camp craft... magical animals are a bit odd for it though. I suppose even though it's done in our world with simpler creatures it should translate," she mentioned of the process itself. She was glad she could help but it was a rather interesting potential problem.

"No. No it doesn't," Charlemagne agreed. He definitely wasn't some sort of masochist, at least not in any way he understood. Maybe he was more like a person using a compass to traverse the moon? No, something about that thought sounded stupid; he didn't even know why an analogy appeared then. Either way, his earlier thoughts about Sakura's approach didn't seem off at all. As things sounded, Sakura would have easily begun something of her own accord. Charlemagne's first thought was about how wonderful an idea that would be. Alas, she did nothing because she had no directive from him? How strange. "That sounds more like a slave. Or... a maid," Charlemagne said with a sigh, ending with an averted gaze due to the mental imagery. There was a slight redness to his face, but he cleared his throat and carried on. "Ahem. Anyway. You can make your own decisions, you know? I already said I don't feel right saying no. It couldn't stress me out any more than what I do to myself already," he clarified. While Charlemagne was having his vision more obscured by the leaning of Sakura, Astolfo was hiding himself behind the latter's throne. This conversation was an interesting sort ─ one that, in Astolfo's mind, made Charlemagne the submissive-leaning sort he figured the lad would be eventually. What a shame; maybe another day would see the dog Charlemagne showed himself capable of being during those wars. Still, this was a worthwhile watch.

Anais's mana flow gave Ailen all the information he needed, and Yume was there to confirm his suspicions this time. "Hmm. In that case, I should warn that nourishment of the soul would be the healthiest approach to what your Party will soon undertake. In my 'professional' experience, being in the field does not allow for growth until the task at hand is complete. You should both keep in mind that preparation is key to situations like these," the elf spoke. Of course, there was also another thing that fueled the current agenda. 'Butter' was a little more complex than he imagined, requiring a specific form of creature's milk, based on Anais's claims. He did need to know more about that to make any headway. "It would also be infinitely helpful if one of you could offer me more information about this butter. I would like to see it produced in Munetsuchi. Surely that is something either of you can do."